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		<title>By: Faramarz.P</title>
		<link>http://www.getreligion.org/?p=14473&#038;cpage=1#comment-149343</link>
		<dc:creator>Faramarz.P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine who was arrested and detained for several months because of leading a house-church in Iran was told during the interrogation that (....you(means all of you evangelists) had committed treason against islam by converting 2-3 millions young people in just a few years...).

 the fact is there has been an increasing number of new converts to Christianity in recent years in Iran.

In the other hand...since all house-churches has been under surveillance and investigation by intelligent services and almost all of new converts has been known by government,speaking about Neda&#039;s belief or spreading this news about she being a Christian (whether right or wrong) will put all her Church members in serious danger because the intelligent service will attempt to destroy all evidence and witnesses! about her faith..
for these reason no one would speak out about her faith.

on the contrary ..having a cross necklace does not mean necessarily that she was Christian. Many people uses a cross in their home ,cars,....these days.

 Government had not released the body and asked for &quot;bullet-fee&quot; (about 8000$).
&quot;Bullet-fee&quot; = According to islamic republic laws when they kill a person they ask the family for expenses before releasing the body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine who was arrested and detained for several months because of leading a house-church in Iran was told during the interrogation that (&#8230;.you(means all of you evangelists) had committed treason against islam by converting 2-3 millions young people in just a few years&#8230;).</p>
<p> the fact is there has been an increasing number of new converts to Christianity in recent years in Iran.</p>
<p>In the other hand&#8230;since all house-churches has been under surveillance and investigation by intelligent services and almost all of new converts has been known by government,speaking about Neda&#8217;s belief or spreading this news about she being a Christian (whether right or wrong) will put all her Church members in serious danger because the intelligent service will attempt to destroy all evidence and witnesses! about her faith..<br />
for these reason no one would speak out about her faith.</p>
<p>on the contrary ..having a cross necklace does not mean necessarily that she was Christian. Many people uses a cross in their home ,cars,&#8230;.these days.</p>
<p> Government had not released the body and asked for &#8220;bullet-fee&#8221; (about 8000$).<br />
&#8220;Bullet-fee&#8221; = According to islamic republic laws when they kill a person they ask the family for expenses before releasing the body.</p>
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		<title>By: Friday Links &#8212; July 10, 2009 &#171; Muslimah Media Watch</title>
		<link>http://www.getreligion.org/?p=14473&#038;cpage=1#comment-149308</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday Links &#8212; July 10, 2009 &#171; Muslimah Media Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] GetReligion writes about Neda Agha Soltani&#8217;s martyrdom. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] GetReligion writes about Neda Agha Soltani&#8217;s martyrdom. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: A'ishah Meghan Hils</title>
		<link>http://www.getreligion.org/?p=14473&#038;cpage=1#comment-149282</link>
		<dc:creator>A'ishah Meghan Hils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m missing the point.

Neda was apparently an amazing woman, but one who didn&#039;t really get involved in politics. According to news media who spoke to her friends and family, she didn&#039;t support any candidate strongly and was never the type to go out and protest. The reason she did is that the thrown election made her angry at the injustice. To me, that doesn&#039;t really have to do with the fact that she was (or was raised) Christian, or even the fact that she is a woman. She was angry at injustice and she spoke out about it.

One of the things that bothers me in the uproar over Iran is the way in which the media has just turned it into this thing that almost has nothing to do with the election anymore. I&#039;m not saying that there aren&#039;t many Iranians who probably want to see a lot of change in their country - but the majority of protesters simply voted for a more reformist candidate, and just want their votes to be counted. They want a government that will pay attention to the election process...but that doesn&#039;t automatically mean that they support a complete regime change a la Western enlightenment. It also really doesn&#039;t seem to be about religion - at least from what I have read and the Iranians I&#039;ve spoken to, and I could be completely wrong here. The only reason most protesters are speaking out against government interpretation of Islam is because the government is being unjust. And Christians, Jews, and Muslims are all compelled to speak out against injustice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m missing the point.</p>
<p>Neda was apparently an amazing woman, but one who didn&#8217;t really get involved in politics. According to news media who spoke to her friends and family, she didn&#8217;t support any candidate strongly and was never the type to go out and protest. The reason she did is that the thrown election made her angry at the injustice. To me, that doesn&#8217;t really have to do with the fact that she was (or was raised) Christian, or even the fact that she is a woman. She was angry at injustice and she spoke out about it.</p>
<p>One of the things that bothers me in the uproar over Iran is the way in which the media has just turned it into this thing that almost has nothing to do with the election anymore. I&#8217;m not saying that there aren&#8217;t many Iranians who probably want to see a lot of change in their country - but the majority of protesters simply voted for a more reformist candidate, and just want their votes to be counted. They want a government that will pay attention to the election process&#8230;but that doesn&#8217;t automatically mean that they support a complete regime change a la Western enlightenment. It also really doesn&#8217;t seem to be about religion - at least from what I have read and the Iranians I&#8217;ve spoken to, and I could be completely wrong here. The only reason most protesters are speaking out against government interpretation of Islam is because the government is being unjust. And Christians, Jews, and Muslims are all compelled to speak out against injustice.</p>
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		<title>By: mitchell porter</title>
		<link>http://www.getreligion.org/?p=14473&#038;cpage=1#comment-149145</link>
		<dc:creator>mitchell porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caleb, is there anywhere online I can read the original article? I can&#039;t find it at www.welt.de.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caleb, is there anywhere online I can read the original article? I can&#8217;t find it at <a href="http://www.welt.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.welt.de</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Neda May Have Been Christian &#171; Doc Cochran&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.getreligion.org/?p=14473&#038;cpage=1#comment-149134</link>
		<dc:creator>Neda May Have Been Christian &#171; Doc Cochran&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] around the world originally cropped out the cross she wore around her neck.  See the picture and a more complete discussion at Get Religion.  As GR points out, the story is not yet complete; the matter of Neda&#8217;s faith is not yet [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] around the world originally cropped out the cross she wore around her neck.  See the picture and a more complete discussion at Get Religion.  As GR points out, the story is not yet complete; the matter of Neda&#8217;s faith is not yet [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://www.getreligion.org/?p=14473&#038;cpage=1#comment-149129</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:

Not all of India was ruled by the Muslims.  And I think the Parsis came to India quite a while before the Muslims arrived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>Not all of India was ruled by the Muslims.  And I think the Parsis came to India quite a while before the Muslims arrived.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.getreligion.org/?p=14473&#038;cpage=1#comment-149113</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Several years ago I met a Zoroastrian - she was a Parsi from India. Her ancestors fled the Muslims in Persia, NKA Iran.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Her ancestors fled the Muslims in Persia, and came to India, which was, then, ruled by Muslims! Interesting, isn&#039;t it?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p><i>Several years ago I met a Zoroastrian - she was a Parsi from India. Her ancestors fled the Muslims in Persia, NKA Iran.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Her ancestors fled the Muslims in Persia, and came to India, which was, then, ruled by Muslims! Interesting, isn&#8217;t it?!</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
		<link>http://www.getreligion.org/?p=14473&#038;cpage=1#comment-149109</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, the article in German says roughly the same thing as the blog post, namely that she was a Christian, and it gives some other well-known details of the story.

As for this, shame on us for hounding the media for more (and truthful!) coverage of this story.  Michael Jackson died!  Let&#039;s keep our priorities here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, the article in German says roughly the same thing as the blog post, namely that she was a Christian, and it gives some other well-known details of the story.</p>
<p>As for this, shame on us for hounding the media for more (and truthful!) coverage of this story.  Michael Jackson died!  Let&#8217;s keep our priorities here!</p>
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		<title>By: faran</title>
		<link>http://www.getreligion.org/?p=14473&#038;cpage=1#comment-149108</link>
		<dc:creator>faran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and also,
&quot;What makes it “more profound”? - Pure Poison says:
July 7, 2009, at 12:55 am

[…] hijab would be sufficient evidence to establish that Neda Soltani was a Christian &quot;


well if u thnk shes not muslim just coz she doesnt hav  hijab, i&#039;ll tell u it doesnt work like that...in iran they MUST hav hijab in public...but a vast majority of the muslims themselves are without hijab in the private of their own home...
trust me i&#039;ve lived there!!i was born therr!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and also,<br />
&#8220;What makes it “more profound”? - Pure Poison says:<br />
July 7, 2009, at 12:55 am</p>
<p>[…] hijab would be sufficient evidence to establish that Neda Soltani was a Christian &#8221;</p>
<p>well if u thnk shes not muslim just coz she doesnt hav  hijab, i&#8217;ll tell u it doesnt work like that&#8230;in iran they MUST hav hijab in public&#8230;but a vast majority of the muslims themselves are without hijab in the private of their own home&#8230;<br />
trust me i&#8217;ve lived there!!i was born therr!!</p>
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		<title>By: Stones Cry Out - If they keep silent&#8230; &#187; Things Heard: e75v2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stones Cry Out - If they keep silent&#8230; &#187; Things Heard: e75v2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ms Neda the Iranian martyr and a question. Why were all the pictures cropped? Who did that? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Ms Neda the Iranian martyr and a question. Why were all the pictures cropped? Who did that? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Pseudo-Polymath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tuesday Highlights</title>
		<link>http://www.getreligion.org/?p=14473&#038;cpage=1#comment-149102</link>
		<dc:creator>Pseudo-Polymath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tuesday Highlights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ms Neda the Iranian martyr and a question. Why were all the pictures cropped? Who did that? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Ms Neda the Iranian martyr and a question. Why were all the pictures cropped? Who did that? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by newadvent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by newadvent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was Twitted by newadvent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This post was Twitted by newadvent [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://www.getreligion.org/?p=14473&#038;cpage=1#comment-149091</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Parsis in India. 

She said there were &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; very many of them left, but more than in Iran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Parsis in India. </p>
<p>She said there were <i>not</i> very many of them left, but more than in Iran</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There is a tradition in Eastern Orthodox Christianity of marking the 40th day after the passing of a loved one, as well&lt;/i&gt;

I learn something new every day on this blog.  Thanks. 

There are certain days when the Jews honor the dead, too.  
Shiva for 7 days &amp; Kaddish for 30 days except parents say Kaddish for 11 months.  Then there are special remembrance prayers during the first year on Yom Kippur, Shimini Atzeretz, Passover and Shvuot. 

Catholics often have a Mass said at the 1 year anniversary and then other days, too, but there is no set pattern. We moderns in the West let a lot of ancient practices die out.  

Several years ago I met a Zoroastrian - she was a Parsi from India. Her ancestors fled the Muslims in Persia, NKA Iran.  She said there were very many of them left, but more than in Iran.  

David Hamstra:   In this country you will find that most Norwegians are Lutheran, most Irish are Catholic, etc. etc.  Just because a faith is also cultural doesn&#039;t mean the individual person doesn&#039;t believe in it.  The free-for-all in religion we enjoy in the US and maybe the UK is unusual in the rest of the world.  

Additionally, in Muslim countries a leader for non-Muslim religious groups was designated the representative of those 
people.  They lumped all the Jews together.  They lumped all the Christians together, lapsed or not.  I&#039;ve never read of a representative for agnostics and atheists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There is a tradition in Eastern Orthodox Christianity of marking the 40th day after the passing of a loved one, as well</i></p>
<p>I learn something new every day on this blog.  Thanks. </p>
<p>There are certain days when the Jews honor the dead, too.<br />
Shiva for 7 days &amp; Kaddish for 30 days except parents say Kaddish for 11 months.  Then there are special remembrance prayers during the first year on Yom Kippur, Shimini Atzeretz, Passover and Shvuot. </p>
<p>Catholics often have a Mass said at the 1 year anniversary and then other days, too, but there is no set pattern. We moderns in the West let a lot of ancient practices die out.  </p>
<p>Several years ago I met a Zoroastrian - she was a Parsi from India. Her ancestors fled the Muslims in Persia, NKA Iran.  She said there were very many of them left, but more than in Iran.  </p>
<p>David Hamstra:   In this country you will find that most Norwegians are Lutheran, most Irish are Catholic, etc. etc.  Just because a faith is also cultural doesn&#8217;t mean the individual person doesn&#8217;t believe in it.  The free-for-all in religion we enjoy in the US and maybe the UK is unusual in the rest of the world.  </p>
<p>Additionally, in Muslim countries a leader for non-Muslim religious groups was designated the representative of those<br />
people.  They lumped all the Jews together.  They lumped all the Christians together, lapsed or not.  I&#8217;ve never read of a representative for agnostics and atheists.</p>
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		<title>By: What makes it &#8220;more profound&#8221;? - Pure Poison</title>
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		<dc:creator>What makes it &#8220;more profound&#8221;? - Pure Poison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hijab would be sufficient evidence to establish that Neda Soltani was a Christian - never mind that the source Bolt linked to for his &#8220;Neda the Christian martyr&#8221; post pointed out that: To me, this does not look [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] hijab would be sufficient evidence to establish that Neda Soltani was a Christian - never mind that the source Bolt linked to for his &#8220;Neda the Christian martyr&#8221; post pointed out that: To me, this does not look [&#8230;]</p>
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