Another good audio, would be Hubbard’s lecture on how religions are “implants” meant to deceive the world.

Only Scientology, Body Thetans and Xenu are REAL.

OF COURSE, this is revealed only to higher level Scientologists, and they will deny it or not talk about it just as they won’t talk about Xenu.

Ted Koppel played the tape of Hubbard talking about his trip to the Van Allen Belt, for David Miscavige, his last interview years ago.

Journalists should stop treating Scientology like it is an ancient religion. We don’t know what Jesus said. We know what Hubbard said because there are hundreds of recordings of him talking about these things, including why smoking more cigarettes PREVENTS cancer.

Lastly, ALL journalists should prepare for an interview with Scientology, by reading Russell Miller’s BARE-FACED MESSIAH. It is full of biographical details and documents about the Hubbard’s life and the development of Dianetics and Scientology.

Just because Scientologists are brainwashed to not look at these facts, doesn’t mean a journalist shouldn’t know them.

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I would agree with Marc Abian and other posters who point out how much of a chameleon Scientology is, shifting its position to suit a question. Therefore journalists should cite past responses and the inconsistencies. Never heard of Xenu…Xenu not important…part of our secret scriptures…can’t discuss.

Yet, it is their ORIGIN STORY. Without Xenu, a person doesn’t need Scientology!

I think more journalists need to confront them on this basic issue and flaw in their comic book theological cloaking. From when Dianetics the “science” changed into Scientology the “religion.”

A journalist needs to ask the hard and obvious question:

“How can you hold off the Xenu story, to well above the $100,000 level, with threats of pneumonia and possible death, according to Hubbard, when if it weren’t for Xenu, and exploding the dead space alien souls onto everyone here on Teegeeack, the prison planet, there would be NO NEED FOR SCIENTOLOGY!”

Then play the recording of Hubbard telling the Xenu story. (He sounds like a lunatic.)

There is a difference in doing it this way, rather than saying, “Tell me about Xenu” and then just having a Scientologist clam up, or start talking about being offended or the sanctity of the ecclesiastical sacred scriptures.

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In one way, they denounce people who leave and still believe as apostates and traitors, and say that real Scientologists are active paying members of the cult, ONLY.

Yet, when they are asked about number of Scientologists, they want to claim “millions” as in anyone who has ever been duped into taking one course, including people I know who took one course, saw it as a money trap, and still can’t get off their junk mail or phone solicitation list.

With the astronomical fees they charge, they know very well how many people are taking courses in each of their facilities. With exposure on the web of their top secret Xenu material, as well as the testimonies from hundreds of ex-members, Scientology’s new membership is drying up.

They have so much money, from the people they’ve scammed through the years, that they are running on propaganda, fumes, and star power. Paul Haggis left. They lost their orientation guy, Larry Anderson, who had the famous lines in their introductory video about the two suggested alternatives to Scientology: blowing your brains out or diving off a cliff.

I think that orientation video encapsulates what Scientology is about: Extreme coercion and promises offered to vulnerable people for the purpose of getting their money and controlling them to get even more people into Scientology, which they believe is the ONLY answer to a doomed planet.

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“Anonymous” is happy about this, as it is about any coverage that exposes these abuses. Despite their claims, scientology is not “like any other new religion”. An example? Sure! Look here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100310/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_church_abuse

You may notice that they’re conducting an independent investigation of these allegations. What does the Church of Scientology do when criticized? Universally attack the credibility of whomever criticized them. Amazing that EVERY SINGLE PERSON to ever say a bad thing about scientology is an apostate or downright evil, isn’t it?

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I do not understand why people cannot separate the self-help books from the policies and official statements made by the church. Just use the book if they need it so desperately to get through life. Reformation and going back to the days of Hubbard should not be an option. They must stop the abuses and throw out ALL scientology policies to “reform the church”. When that is done, it then becomes a mere book club as it should be.

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it includes former members of Sea Org

The Australian Senate is considering launching an inquiry into Scientology in Australia, following claims by former members aired by Senator Nick Xenophon in the Senate

Jeremy

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1. The organization charges fees for past counseling sessions to defecting members. Does the “church” have any legal standing to do this, as a non-profit?

2. The “church” blackmails current and former members that they can (and do) reveal ethics file confessions. Is this legal? or is it blackmail? Is it also a violation of state laws protecting patient privelege?

3. The “church” holds sea-org member passports hostage. Is this legal?

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Once difficulty that a reporter faces is the sheer incredulity of how badly Scientology abuses its members, since one wonders why if it is so bad do people not simply walk away? Perhaps this is why the NY Times gentler approach is more effective at introducing the abuses to someone who may not yet have been exposed.

Another difficulty is that Scientology has honed its facade for 50 years, and has developed stock answers to every possible objection. A truly in-depth investigation would examine how Scientology contradicts itself in the media.

When convenient, it’s a religion and its critics are religious bigots. When convenient it’s a business and it presents itself as such in court to protect its copyrights. On CNN it’s spokesperson Tommy Davis claimed there is no such thing as disconnection, in the recent 4 Corners TV program he admitted it exists. On the same CNN program he denied the existence of Xenu and body thetans, but in interviews with KESQ and with Nightline’s Bashir, he admitted that it was in fact a secret tenet of Scientology.

In the next exposes of Scientology I would like to see journalists expose past interviews and articles whenever Scientology gives an answer that contradicts what they had previously stated.

One last point is that Scientology calls all ex-members who speak out liars. They have been doing so for 50 years now, and there is a list of almost 1000 ex-members who relate quite similar stories about fraud, broken families, emotional abuse, forced confinement, forced abortions and on and on… The list is here:

http://wiki.whyweprotest.net/List_of_ex-Scientologists_who_have_spoken_out

I would like a journalist to ask how Scientology accounts for the fact that so many people have independently spoken of the same sorts of abuses, all around the world, and over the past 50 years?

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This should happen more. Pretty much anything a Scientologists sais is a lie (which he may or may not believe himself) and well-prepared journalists go a long way in exposing that.

I also agree with Jay - all parents know to warn their kids not to go home with strange men. Somehow, we don’t warn our kids for cults when they are young adults. A shame, because the way cults operate is well documented and easy to spot - if you know what to look for.

And one more thing I’d like to be discussed more often: the tax exempt status. The IRS is giving Scientology tax breaks no other religion enjoys, therewith violating the establishment clause in the first amendment of the US constition (go to Youtube and search for Sklar IRS to hear a judge admonish the IRS about this fact during a trial).

This should incense people and should be more focus of journalists.

Thanks.

PS Just a little correction - The SP times series involved more than 20 people, not four.

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