Comments on: What made them search a bishop? http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=shepherd-on-the-run "The press . . . just doesn't get religion." -- William Schneider Sat, 04 Feb 2012 05:07:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Religion and airport scanners http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-154955 Religion and airport scanners Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:35:03 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-154955 [...] of young children on his laptop hard-drive by airport security. Tmatt at GetReligion asked “What made them search a bishop?” and, a week and a bit later, he was able to answer. From a story in Halifax’s [...] […] of young children on his laptop hard-drive by airport security. Tmatt at GetReligion asked “What made them search a bishop?” and, a week and a bit later, he was able to answer. From a story in Halifax’s […]

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]]> By: Mason http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153909 Mason Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:29:36 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153909 I'm guessing that ECJM nailed the reason above (see 22). From what country was the Bishop returning to Canada? I’m guessing that ECJM nailed the reason above (see 22). From what country was the Bishop returning to Canada?

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]]> By: Julia http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153901 Julia Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:21:15 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153901 <blockquote cite="">orginary</blockquote> should be <i>Ordinary</i> - a bishop with a diocese as opposed to a bishop doing administrative work, like Law is currently doing.

orginary

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Ordinary - a bishop with a diocese as opposed to a bishop doing administrative work, like Law is currently doing.

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]]> By: Julia http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153900 Julia Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:19:18 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153900 One guess about why they don't "fire" bishops. Once a bishop, always a bishop. There is a problem with rogue bishops ordaining priests and setting up separated groups. SEE SSPX, Archbishop Malingo and Cardinal Law. Once the bishop is "fired", there is no longer any ability to influence, much less control an errant bishop. Contrary to popular belief, Law's current position at St Mary Major is a huge demotion from being the orginary of a large, important diocese like Boston, and he can be watched. The SSPX and Malingo, on the other hand, are out there untethered causing further damage. One guess about why they don’t “fire” bishops. Once a bishop, always a bishop. There is a problem with rogue bishops ordaining priests and setting up separated groups. SEE SSPX, Archbishop Malingo and Cardinal Law. Once the bishop is “fired”, there is no longer any ability to influence, much less control an errant bishop. Contrary to popular belief, Law’s current position at St Mary Major is a huge demotion from being the orginary of a large, important diocese like Boston, and he can be watched. The SSPX and Malingo, on the other hand, are out there untethered causing further damage.

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]]> By: Phil http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153855 Phil Sun, 04 Oct 2009 05:23:38 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153855 I'm not really interested in why they searched the bishop's computer. I'm concerned that this man ever became a priest, and then bishop, in the first place. I'm concerned that the warning signs, which were clearly there, were ignored. I'm concerned that this is yet another cleric who gives the vast majority of good, holy priests a black eye. Here's my question: WHY on earth doesn't the Holy See get rid of these low-life creeps once and for all??? WHY don't they simply FIRE them?? I absolutely do not understand that. I’m not really interested in why they searched the bishop’s computer. I’m concerned that this man ever became a priest, and then bishop, in the first place. I’m concerned that the warning signs, which were clearly there, were ignored. I’m concerned that this is yet another cleric who gives the vast majority of good, holy priests a black eye.

Here’s my question: WHY on earth doesn’t the Holy See get rid of these low-life creeps once and for all??? WHY don’t they simply FIRE them?? I absolutely do not understand that.

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]]> By: Paul Barnes http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153850 Paul Barnes Sun, 04 Oct 2009 01:52:41 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153850 Nancy, downloaded music from 2P2 is not illegal in Canada at the moment. Mind you, out govt screws us in different ways about copyright. Nancy, downloaded music from 2P2 is not illegal in Canada at the moment. Mind you, out govt screws us in different ways about copyright.

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]]> By: Jon in the Nati http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153845 Jon in the Nati Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:52:39 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153845 RR: I don't think anyone is suggesting that the accusations are untrue (although we would do well to remember that, both in the United States and in Canada, there is a presumption of innocence). The question being posed regards what, exactly, would have caused Canadian border guards to power up his laptop and take a gander at his photo collection. As far as I know, that is not SOP at border crossings. RR:

I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the accusations are untrue (although we would do well to remember that, both in the United States and in Canada, there is a presumption of innocence).

The question being posed regards what, exactly, would have caused Canadian border guards to power up his laptop and take a gander at his photo collection. As far as I know, that is not SOP at border crossings.

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]]> By: Judith Brown http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153824 Judith Brown Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:44:26 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153824 Keep connected with Sylvia MacEachern's blog at www.theinquiry.ca She posted Oct. 1. Sylvia has the most extensive files on the homosexual/pedophile/etc network in the Catholic Church in Canada. If you can contact Paul Likoudis of "The Wanderer", he also has material. The one I remember best is his coverage of Svend Robinson's angry encounter with Fr. D. Crosby of St. Joseph's parish, Ottawa (Dignity-mass-friendly parish), now bishop of Cornerbrook & Labrador. All MP's had been given a copy of Rome's "On the Pastoral Care of Homosexuals" by the St. Bridgid's Assoc. & it contradicted what the CCCB had been telling the federal politicians; Crosby and lawyer Leddy were at a loss for words.... Keep connected with Sylvia MacEachern’s blog at http://www.theinquiry.ca She posted Oct. 1. Sylvia has the most extensive files on the homosexual/pedophile/etc network in the Catholic Church in Canada. If you can contact Paul Likoudis of “The Wanderer”, he also has material. The one I remember best is his coverage of Svend Robinson’s angry encounter with Fr. D. Crosby of St. Joseph’s parish, Ottawa (Dignity-mass-friendly parish), now bishop of Cornerbrook & Labrador. All MP’s had been given a copy of Rome’s “On the Pastoral Care of Homosexuals” by the St. Bridgid’s Assoc. & it contradicted what the CCCB had been telling the federal politicians; Crosby and lawyer Leddy were at a loss for words….

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]]> By: EJCM http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153813 EJCM Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:40:56 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153813 I wonder where the Bishop was coming from? A single 60ish man returning from a trip to Thailand or somewhere like that is going to raise suspicion. I wonder where the Bishop was coming from? A single 60ish man returning from a trip to Thailand or somewhere like that is going to raise suspicion.

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]]> By: RR http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153812 RR Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:29:22 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153812 I don't see what the problem is. Thank God he's been caught. I may be premature in this, but if he weren't guilty, he would have been the first to make a public statement about his innocence. The fact that he has not so much as said a word about the whole situation other than his notice of retirement does not point to his innocence. The fact that his computer was searched could be as simple as the guard's being prompted by his guardian angel. The Gospel for today said that a child's angels is continually before the face of God; it could be that God decided it was time to turn him in. Let this be a warning to all - clergy or otherwise --, you will be caught! I don’t see what the problem is. Thank God he’s been caught.
I may be premature in this, but if he weren’t guilty, he would have been the first to make a public statement about his innocence. The fact that he has not so much as said a word about the whole situation other than his notice of retirement does not point to his innocence.

The fact that his computer was searched could be as simple as the guard’s being prompted by his guardian angel. The Gospel for today said that a child’s angels is continually before the face of God; it could be that God decided it was time to turn him in. Let this be a warning to all - clergy or otherwise —, you will be caught!

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]]> By: Lee Podles http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153802 Lee Podles Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:03:38 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153802 Canadian reporters have not yet discovered that Lahey was mentioned in Harris' <i>Unholy Orders</i> (about Mount Cashel). Lahey was vicar general at the time, and at a trial gave a character reference for a confessed pedophile. Lahey noted how much the victim had improved during the time he was being abused. Canadian reporters have not yet discovered that Lahey was mentioned in Harris’ Unholy Orders (about Mount Cashel). Lahey was vicar general at the time, and at a trial gave a character reference for a confessed pedophile. Lahey noted how much the victim had improved during the time he was being abused.

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]]> By: Michel http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153796 Michel Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:00:37 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153796 Dale, I don't know if you are Canadian or not. But, if you are not, you may not appreciate what a huge story the Mount Cashel thing was here. It ran on the front pages for months and months, there were articles and books and even a television miniseries based on it. Trust me, the police keep tabs on anyone who was associated with that earlier incident. This isn't just a case of one person's memory. Dale,

I don’t know if you are Canadian or not.

But, if you are not, you may not appreciate what a huge story the Mount Cashel thing was here. It ran on the front pages for months and months, there were articles and books and even a television miniseries based on it. Trust me, the police keep tabs on anyone who was associated with that earlier incident. This isn’t just a case of one person’s memory.

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]]> By: Kirk http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153789 Kirk Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:12:12 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153789 I would be willing to bet he was looking at the porn on his computer on the flight into Canada. A passenger or steward saw it and reported him. Alternatively, if the flight allowed onboard internet access, perhaps he was surfing prohibited websites during the flight, and they detected it. I would be willing to bet he was looking at the porn on his computer on the flight into Canada. A passenger or steward saw it and reported him. Alternatively, if the flight allowed onboard internet access, perhaps he was surfing prohibited websites during the flight, and they detected it.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153788 Dave Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:59:33 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153788 <blockquote cite="">The officers had some reason to pick out the bishop, and they’re not telling what it was.</blockquote> And they will probably go on not telling. Occam's razor suggests the bishop fit a profile and the cops are not going to disclose what it was, as it's not necessary for prosecution.

The officers had some reason to pick out the bishop, and they’re not telling what it was.

And they will probably go on not telling. Occam’s razor suggests the bishop fit a profile and the cops are not going to disclose what it was, as it’s not necessary for prosecution.

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]]> By: Dale http://www.getreligion.org/2009/10/shepherd-on-the-run/comment-page-1/#comment-153780 Dale Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:15:20 +0000 http://www.getreligion.org/?p=18944#comment-153780 Michel: The story in your link concerns quotes from one individual, a plaintiff in a lawsuit, who now recalls telling police about pornography in the bishop's residence 20 years ago. On the other hand, the Ottawa police said that the bishop wasn't known to the Ottawa police or a target of investigation until he "triggered" closer inspection by the border officers. At this point, I'd place more weight on what the police say (and haven't said) than an interested party's twenty-year old memory. Michel:

The story in your link concerns quotes from one individual, a plaintiff in a lawsuit, who now recalls telling police about pornography in the bishop’s residence 20 years ago. On the other hand, the Ottawa police said that the bishop wasn’t known to the Ottawa police or a target of investigation until he “triggered” closer inspection by the border officers. At this point, I’d place more weight on what the police say (and haven’t said) than an interested party’s twenty-year old memory.

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