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I love how the spin doctors have made Romney appear to have been pro-gay/abortion. Anyone with even a shred of knowledge about Mormon bishops knows that Romney was NEVER pro-gay or pro-abortion. He viewed these things through a libertarian lense (the opposite of shariah law) as a candidate for senator and, later, as governor. His harsher stance on abortion is based on his belief that the states should be able to decide. His harsher stance on homosexual marriage actually stems from the same feelings. If homosexual marriage is allowed in one state, it must be recognized by all states. This further weakens the family. However, if California allowed abortions, it does not mean that Alabama would have to allow them too. In other words, one policy can be state-specific while the other must be national in order to protect states’ rights. (Individual states can still pass laws granting all the benifits of marriage to homosexuals; however, they would not be automatically transferrable to other states).

Romney is smart, above outside control, loyal, good, and able. Huckabee can play guitar. If a better candidate had risen to the top, I’d be less saddened. As it stands, I can’t help but acknowledge that Mormons are being sold out.
Good thing I’m a Democrat.

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If a candidate is a Union member, and he’s seeking votes in a heavily pro-Union state, it makes sense to point that out.

Huckabee, a conservative Christian, is making sure that the HUGE conservative Christian base in Iowa knows he’s one, too.

Not being able to read Huckabee’s mind, I won’t attribute sinister motives or any other motive to his actions unless I have proof. That’s something good for everyone to do, even if they’re not in Huckabee’s fan club.

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does that make pointing out your own Christianity out of bounds as some sort of attack

Why point out your own Christianity? Even if it isn’t perceived as an attack on a fellow candidate.

I see no reason to hide it, but why make a big deal of it?

As someone has mentioned, Lieberman’s name may lead one to think he’s a Jew by birth, but his name alone won’t tell you that he’s an Orthodox and practicing religious Jew. I don’t recall him bragging about being a religious Jew. He wasn’t hiding it either. He just didn’t make a big deal of it.

The name Giuliani would lead one to think the person is likely a Christian, but it doesn’t guarantee it. I don’t recall Giuliani trying to make his Catholic background a big deal - whether he thinks of himself as a good Catholic or not.

Why make such a point about one’s religion as a plus? When did that become appropriate? It’s divisive.

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Does Huckabee subscribe to his spiritual advisor Timothy LaHay’s views of the Rapture, United Nations, and a Palestinian state?” Huck’s use of the “Christian Leader” title is a thinly-veiled attempt to impose a religious test in violation of Article Six of the Constitution.

I think it’s funny that Bot (17) criticizes those who would impose a religious test (and, once again, I’ll say that the Constitution ONLY restricts government from imposing the test, not individuals) but in the sentence before it, he imposes a test of his own, whether Huckabee agrees with what I presume are Bot’s own views. Bot can’t have it both ways

Actually, Bot does raise a great point, though perhaps not as he wanted to. As a voter, I want to know if Huckabee is going to act as president to bring about Armageddon, or if he holds to the view tha Israel’s government is going to be deemed “correct” all the time simply because it’s the heir of the ancient Biblical state, which I don’t see as in America’s best interest.

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And about that picture - I read my Bible and pray my rosary, but not at the same time. What’s going on there? A scriptural rosary? That’d be a lot of page flipping to do it straight from the Bible.

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“I see he and Obama as very similar in what they’re trying to do,” Inglis said, referring to the latter’s willingness to break with party orthodoxy on certain issues.

“I think that Huckabee has got to find a way say things that need to be said, that we’re not going to scare them into voting for us, we’re not going to demonize Democrats, we’re not going to hate immigrants,” Inglis said. “We’re going to be rooted in principle and focused on the future, and that’s what I think he’s found.”

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The Arkansas Ethics Commission held proceedings 20 times on the former governor. During his tenure, Huckabee accepted 314 gifts valued overall at more than $150,000, according to documents filed with the Arkansas secretary of state’s office. (He accepted 187 gifts in his first three years as governor but was not required to report their value.)

Two months after taking office, Huckabee stunned the state by saying he questioned rapist Wayne DuMond’s guilt and that it was his intention to free the rapist, DuMond murdered a women in Illinois after Huckabee set him free

Huckabee battled conservatives within his own party who were pushing for stricter state-level immigration measures, such as:.
- proof of legal status when applying for state services that aren’t federally mandated
- proof of citizenship when registering to vote
- Huckabee failed in his effort to make children of illegal immigrants eligible for state-funded scholarships and in-state tuition to Arkansas colleges.
In a1992 :U.S. Senate race, Huck advocated quarantining AIDS patients, and cutting AIDS research.
Does Huckabee subscribe to his spiritual advisor Timothy LaHay’s views of the Rapture, United Nations, and a Palestinian state?” Huck’s use of the “Christian Leader” title is a thinly-veiled attempt to impose a religious test in violation of Article Six of the Constitution.

Mike fails on so many levels as a true conservative

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Except in Utah and maybe Idaho, whether Mormons support Romney doesn’t really matter from the perspective of who is going to win the nomination.

True, but that’s not what you’re trying to prove, is it Michael?

mainline Protestants have less influence in the GOP and mainline Protestant Democrats wouldn’t vote for Romney, Mormon or not, so again any bigotry is inconsequential on Romney’s future.

Uh huh. So bigotry is the reason evangelicals may not support Romney. Yet the similar behavior of Mormons and mainline Protestants is irrelevant.

How convenient.

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I normally like Krauthammer a great deal, but I want some of what he’s been sniffing.

Krauthammer just takes for granted that calling oneself a Christian is really an attack on Mitt Romney without even putting forth an argument at all — except an analogy to Joe Lieberman’s being in the campaign, thinking it to be self-evident in that case too. But there is no argument from Krauthammer other than bald assertion.

I mean … what’s Huckabee (or Brownback RIP, or any conceivable Christian) supposed to do if there’s a non-Christian in the field — whether Mormon, Jew or otherwise — does that make pointing out your own Christianity out of bounds as some sort of attack? Sezhoo and sinswen? Would the ad have been out of bounds if there were no non-Christians in the race? How is what Krauthammer saying not an informal negative-test of religion for office, while fulminating against the formal kind. And does this same rule apply to non-Christians — i.e., Lieberman couldn’t identify himself as a Jew (how, without changing his name) because there were no non-Jews on the 2000 GOP ticket?

Further, it’s not as if (1) it were a two-person race; Huckabee had been running fifth until a couple of weeks ago, meaning he had three Christians to pull ahead of, besides Romney, or (2) there is anything in the ad’s script that can be called a reference to Mormonism (“I only worship one god”; “I only have one wife”; “I don’t rely on golden tablets or new gospels,” etc.)

In fact, the only Huckabee words Krauthammer bothers to cite is this: “Faith doesn’t just influence me, it really defines me.” How in the name of Moroni is that a reference to Romney, Mormonism or any halfway widespread image of either? In fact, even those (mostly) evangelicals who engage in the strongest statements of theological distaste for Mormonism usually do so with the caveat that Mormons are near-universally good people who live out their (misguided, heretical etc.) religion to the full, and that Christians have a great deal socially and in-the-worldwise to learn from them. For Mormons, their religion defines them, for good or ill eternally; nobody sees them as milquetoasts for whom religion is a mere influence. In fact, if Huckabee’s words must be seen as an implicit religious slam against another candidate, it could be more easily interpreted as aimed at Rudy Giuliani, the multi-divorced, pro-abortion, gay-shackup Catholic (or perhaps Fred Thompson as an unreliable johnny-come-lately).

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