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Saturday, April 22, 2006
Posted by tmatt
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greenegeorgeSpeaking of Fred Barnes and the faith factor, there is a great Fred moment in his op-ed today in the Wall Street Journal. In effect, it opens with Sen. George F. Allen of Virginia trying out his “cultural right” soundbites for the most influential “cultural right” journalist in D.C. journalism.

This audition is taking place during lunch at the Monocle, one of those networking places on Capitol Hill that is also a restaurant.

George F. Allen is staring at me. The normally loquacious Virginia senator is not saying anything and neither am I. Silence hangs in the air for a few seconds.

The impasse, like so many other things in American politics, was owing to Roe v. Wade. Mr. Allen’s position is carefully demarcated: He would like to see the decision “reinterpreted” to allow states to decide the legal status of abortion. Does that mean he would like to see it overturned? He won’t say. So I suggest that Mr. Allen’s “reinterpretation” would produce precisely the same result as overturning the ruling: States would decide the fate of abortion. I pause for a response. Nothing. I get more direct. “Why won’t you say you want Roe reversed?”

Again, Mr. Allen is mum, and eventually I give up.

OK, does anyone remember that statement by Godtalk scribe Michael Gerson, right after the 2004 election, about the divisions in the White House caused by abortion and other social issues? He said that, time after time, the key to debates in this White House is the tension between those advocating a more “Catholic” (with a large C) approach to public life and those taking a more libertarian (with a small L) approach.

So here we go again. We live in a libertarian age and, clearly, Barnes is using the ultimate social issue to find out where Allen falls, when it comes to the big split in the GOP. Of course, the public — muddled on anything absolute — wants compromise, which is something the Democratic establishment cannot allow for its elites and the GOP has little motive to seek, because of the large motivation factor that a strict abortion stand provides for consistent cultural conservatives (in both parties). Neither party has reason to do the dangerous political work of overturning Roe and, thus, getting to compromise.

baby1thumb 2It cannot be said enough: The elite Democrats are united on abortion. The elite Republicans, in their big tent, are divided. The classic article on this is still that Atlantic Monthly piece in 1995 by George McKenna describing “A Lincolnian Position” on abortion.

So back to Barnes and Allen at lunch. Barnes is doing what other journalists on the political beat will have to do — push the major candidates to move beyond mere words and describe what they mean when they use words such as “moderate,” “conservative” and “libertarian.”

As Rod Dreher is saying in his Crunchy Cons book, one party worships libertarian morality and the other libertarian economics. It’s the party of lust vs. the party of greed. And under the surface are the fault lines, with the Democrats seeking new semi-religious language (with no compromises on policy), while worrying about the practicing Catholics. Meanwhile, the Republicans keep trying to use their same old religious language that has worked for a long time, while doing as little as possible in terms of actual policy so as not to run off the Dick Cheney wing of the party.

So here is Allen talking about the size of government. Note the almost magical use of the word “freedom,” which, on abortion, is a word that the pro-abortion-rights crowd has to use early and often.

… (Allen) disagrees with Mr. Bush on the scope of the federal government. The president accepts its size as a given and advocates using it for conservative ends. Mr. Allen says he has “a libertarian sense.” He describes himself as more in sync with Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan than with George Bush. “I’m one who dislikes limits. I don’t like restrictions. I like freedom. I like liberty. Unless you’re harming someone else, you leave people free.”

Unless you are “harming someone else.” OK, Allen is going to have to answer the abortion question sooner or later.

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8 Responses to “Barnes, Allen and the question”

  1. c.tower says:

    I’m always amazed when people talk about “compromise” on this issue, because both sides are INCAPABLE of it.And for good reason: If abortion is a form of murder, then forcing a women to bear a child against her will is a form of rape.Nothing is ever going to change that; the only question is who you side with- mother or child.( The best arguement in favour of “choice” is who MAKES the choice- the government, or the individuals who actually have to live with the aftermath of that choice…)

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  2. Tom Harmon says:

    Too bad your “best argument” discounts the individual who actually has to die with the aftermath of the choice…

    Rape? Are you serious? Also, is it really in a mother’s best interest to make it legal for her to commit murder? That sounds to me like a really weird idea of “best interest.”

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  3. Roberto says:

    With all due respect, the fallacy at work in your piece is to distinguish between a libertarian approach to economic matters and one in moral matters, as if they were divisible. The only people who believe that are Christians; the Reason crowd an d the rest of the Libertarians certainly don’t.

    One of the GOP’s great triumphs is to convince Christians that classical liberalism can be limited to what we do with our money.

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  4. c.tower says:

    If taking sexual control of a woman’s body for nine months and using her, against her will, as a recieving womb doesn’t fit the defination of rape, I’m not sure what would…

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  5. barbara harper says:

    the only people who do not have control of their bodies-are children,prisoners,and slaves. into
    which category do women fit???

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  6. tmatt says:

    Folks, we can debate the abortion issue here for years and not talk about the issue in the post. The goal of government is compromise. The goal of the media is to cover the various views held among citizens. Is the MSM doing that on abortion?

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  7. c.tower says:

    I don’t know if the msm CAN fairly cover this issue, because nobody in the “middle” really wants to go on the record about it. The hardcore on both sides will go on at length (as we’ve proven here), but there’s no single issue that can generate more “waffling” than this one.(I suppose, in some ways, that IS a fair reflection of the public’s real attitude…)

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  8. Kristine says:

    …one party worships libertarian morality and the other libertarian economics. It’s the party of lust vs. the party of greed…

    That’s exactly it. And those of us who see that, and are uncomfortable with those choices are stuck in a catch 22. I’m waiting for the ‘pro-life, capable of making good personal moral choices, steward of the earth, protector of the poor, awarder of the hard-working, nurturer of our youth’ candidate. I don’t care what party she’s from - That’s who I want for president. I’m bothered that waffling is the preferred form of stating candidate’s convictions, so it’s up to us to make decisions and vote without really knowing where candidates stand.
    I hope the MSN really digs ‘til they find out something and then report it in a non-biased, factual manner. I’m not holding my breath, though.

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